IDE Minutes 2007-10-18

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Attendees this week

  • Lori Hylan-Cho <lorihc(at)>
  • Ingo Muschenetz <ingo(at)>
  • Kevin Hakman <khakman(at)>
  • Ted Thibodeau <tthibodeau(at)>
  • Greg Murray <greg.murray(at)>
  • Jon Ferraiolo <jferrai(at)>
  • Scott Richards <>
  • Bertrand Le Roy <>
  • Phil Berkland <>
  • Rich Thompson <>
  • David Wright (Microsoft)


  • Kevin will put out open call for proposals.
  • Kevin summarized last weeks call.
  • David and Bertrand presented Microsoft's proposal
  • The formats have been in use for a while, based on .net
  • Sandcastle is tool for aggregating information from xml files, used for generating documentation
  • main file has metadata describing apis
  • one of the strengths is it can describe multiple languages
  • schema can be extend for different languages using different xml namespaces
  • Jon: we want to come up with schema which supports existing workflows, such as Microsoft's , should be possible to merge in metadata from Aptana and Adobe proposals
  • Kevin: agree, the proposals have overlaps
  • Ingo: would there be a single file or multiple files?
  • David: we generally use multiple files
  • Ingo: there are different types of data, some document apis, other files document snippets
  • Lori: are we talking about what goes into user's page, or documenting library framework
  • David:??
  • Jon: we will have to support multiple input files, loaded when needed
  • David: should we to produce a schema which removes CLR specific items
  • Bertrand: should we provide a plain English description
  • Jon: next step is reconcile proposals
  • Kevin: Greg and Sun wants to have proposal covering the area of packaging
  • Greg: not able to provide at this time
  • Kevin: Should go forward with what we have and will evolve over time
  • Bertrand: point out the proposal supports internationalization
  • Kevin: what is Jmaki perspective?
  • Greg: packaging is important, files need to be in certain locations
  • Jon: should be take the best of each proposal, Jmaki packaging, Adobe widget support, Microsoft reflection, Aptana api documentation
  • Scott: how does these proposal cover widget get exposed in IDE
  • Jon: as described in adobe proposal
  • Greg: how do we specify what widget parameters are specified by users
  • David: we do have 'optional' parameter
  • Bertrand: should write example widget data snippet so we can see what it looks like
  • Sun/jMaki will not submit a proposal summary largely because Greg is out for 3 weeks.
  • MS might submit a consolidation/reconciliation proposal, maybe with an XML schema
  • Jon suggested agenda next week would be to review consolidation/reconciliation proposals - and hope to see at least one by then
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