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Contents 1 Minutes from Declarative Markup committee teleconference September 7, 2006 1.1 Attendees 1.1.1 Absent 1.2 Agenda 1.3 Topic: Next steps with open source project at SourceForge 1.4 Topic: Discussion/feedback on Steering Committee election process (first-draft proposal) 1.5 Discussion/feedback on face-to-face meeting agenda (first-draft proposal)

Minutes from Declarative Markup committee teleconference September 7, 2006

Attendees

• Javier Gallego <Javier.Gallego@softwareag.com>
• Jon Ferraiolo <jferrai@us.ibm.com>
• Lindsey Simon <lsimon@finetooth.com>
• Ted Thibodeau <tthibodeau@openlinksw.com>
• Victor Leith <vsleith@us.ibm.com>
• Vivienne van der Vooren <vvandervooren@seagullsoftware.com>

Absent

• Adam Peller <apeller@us.ibm.com>
• Alejandro Escalante Medina <alejandroe@jackbe.com>
• Alex Russell <alex@dojotoolkit.org>
• Anil Sharma <anil@vertexlogic.com>
• Bradley Sipes <Bradley.Sipes@ikivo.com>
• Brodi Beartusk <bbeartus@bea.com>
• Charles Lowell <cowboyd@thefrontside.net>
• Chris Jolley <jolleyc@bea.com>
• Chuck Ames <CAmes@seagullsoftware.com>
• Coach Wei <coach@nexaweb.com>
• Dave Johnson <djohnson@ebusiness-apps.com>
• David Frankel <david.frankel@sap.com>
• David Temkin <temkin@laszlosystems.com>
• Eddie O'Neil <ekoneil@bea.com>
• Eric Nguyen <ericn@mercedsystems.com>
• Erik van Dongen <evandongen@seagullsoftware.com>
• Gustavo Munoz <gustavom@jackbe.com>
• James Margaris <jmargaris@nexaweb.com>
• Jeremy Chone <jchone@adobe.com>
• Jim Grandy <jgrandy@openlaszlo.org>
• John Crupi <john.crupi@jackbe.com>
• Joonas Lehtinen <joonas.lehtinen@itmill.com>
• Jorge Taylor <jotaylor@adobe.com>
• Ken Fyten <ken.fyten@icesoft.com>
• Kin Blas <jblas@adobe.com>
• Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
• Marc Englund <marc.englund@itmill.com>
• Mark Schiefelbein <mark@backbase.com>
• Michael Peachey <mpeachey@tibco.com>
• Phil Berkland <berkland@us.ibm.com>
• Ravindran Navamany <ravi@vircon.com>
• Ruben Daniels <ruben@javeline.nl>
• Sami Ekblad <sami.ekblad@itmill.com>
• Steven Pothoven <pothoven@us.ibm.com>
• Vincent Hardy <vincent.hardy@sun.com>
• William Shulman <will@mercedsystems.com>

Agenda

• Agenda
  • Next steps with open source project at SourceForge
    • Update from last week's Interoperability meeting
      • Interoperability Minutes 2006-08-30
    • How to ensure that all contributions are proper from a legal perspective
      • Phone call on Friday with IBM's lawyer, Jeff Thompson
        • Subject: Contributor agreements for code contributors to SourceForge project
        • Date/Time: Friday, 8 September, 9am-California, noon-NewYork, 6pmParis
        • Phone#: 1-888-227-9220
        • Passcode: 871757
    • Wiki page with more information on SourceForege project: Open Source
  • Discussion/feedback on Steering Committee election process (first-draft proposal)
    • 2006 Steering Committee Election
    • 2006 Steering Committee Nominations
  • Discussion/feedback on face-to-face meeting agenda (first-draft proposal)
    • 2006 October Members Meeting

Topic: Next steps with open source project at SourceForge

• Next steps with open source project at SourceForge
  • Update from last week's Interoperability meeting
    • Interoperability Minutes 2006-08-30
  • How to ensure that all contributions are proper from a legal perspective
    • Phone call on Friday with IBM's lawyer, Jeff Thompson
      • Subject: Contributor agreements for code contributors to SourceForge project
      • Date/Time: Friday, 8 September, 9am-California, noon-NewYork, 6pmParis
      • Phone#: 1-888-227-9220
      • Passcode: 871757
  • Wiki page with more information on SourceForege project: Open Source

(Jon reviewed results from last week's Interoperability meeting, where two things came up. First, we wanted a more restricted list of committers. The right to commit must be earned from track record of ongoing contribution of high quality. Initially, four committers only, Jon, James, Lindsey and Alex. Second, Jon was given the action to review SourceForge contributor process to ensure that all contributions would be dealt with suitably under Apache v2 licensing. Jon reports that, no, SourceForge does not deal with this and so we need to do something. At the Interoperability meeting, we discussed the Apache contributor license agreement and then Jon talked with IBM's lawyer. As a result of this, there is a special meeting tomorrow with Jeff Thompson of IBM to talk about approaches to how to contribute code. Jeff's opinion is that all we need to do is have each contributor send an email that says : (a) All of his contributions are subject to the Alliance's IPR policy (with URL to the Members Agreement), and (b) Confirm that he is the original author of all contributions that he is submitting.)

ACTION: Jon to put template email on wiki for contributors to the SourceForge project. (Jon has put outline but not exact words on the wiki at [1].)

Jon: Who will attend tomorrow's meeting?

Vivienne: Can't attend.

Ted: Yes.

Javier: Probably someone from SoftwareAG will attend.

Topic: Discussion/feedback on Steering Committee election process (first-draft proposal)

• 2006 Steering Committee Election
• 2006 Steering Committee Nominations

(Jon introduced proposed election and nomination process, walking through each aspect of how the nominations and elections would be handled.)

Javier: Don't see a problem. 4 people will serve for 2 years. 3 people will serve for 1 year.

Vivienne: Looks fine.

(Silence when asked about feedback on nomination process.)

Jon: How about the Instant Runoff Voting approach? One obvious objection is that it is too clever. I like it because it ensures that candidates acceptable to the majority will be chosen and thwarts power moves by minority blocks. Example: 40% prefer the liberal candidate, 40% prefer the conservative candidate, 20% prefer the moderate candidate, but the moderate candidate is second choice for 80%. Since no majority, the moderate would be chosen.

Ted: works for me.

(Jon talks about confidentiality approach, where only the members of the steering committee can see the votes. This is because we think some members don't want their votes to be public. But we need enough visibility by enough people to ensure confidence that the election was fair. When asked for feedback about problems with this approach, no response.)

Discussion/feedback on face-to-face meeting agenda (first-draft proposal)

• 2006 October Members Meeting
• 2006 October Members Meeting Agenda

Jon: Only people who have signed the Members Agreement can attend, plus invited guests, who can only attend the public parts of the meeting.

Ted: Sounds right to me.

Vivienne: Seagull probably cannot attend. Anyway to have conferencing or recordings?

Jon: Up to host. Audio conferencing seems likely. Video usually requires paying someone and we are a volunteer organization.

Ted: Probably cannot attend. Getting married the next Saturday.

Javier: Someone from Software AG will attend. I have a wedding to attend in Spain on Saturday, so probably not me.

Jon: Will any of you volunteer to be on any panels? Main reason for being on a panel are to promote your products and technologies to this key bunch of influencers and to state your vision about what OpenAjax should do.

Lindsey: Don't need to be on any panels, but would like to be if that is possible. Either client or product panel. We develop Ajax components.

Jon: My guess is client panel would be best.