Steering Committee Minutes 2007-04-05
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OpenAjax Alliance Steering Committee meeting minutes 2007-04-05
Attendees
- IBM/David Boloker
- NEXAWEB/Coach Wei
- TIBCO/Kevin Hakman
- ZEND/Michael Pinette
- ECLIPSE/Mike Milinkovich
- ZIMBRA/Scott Dietzen
- DOJO/Alex Russell (joined late)
- Jon Ferraiolo
(regrets from TIBCO/Kevin Hakman, who arrived just after the meeting completed)
Original Agenda
- Agenda
- New members to approve
- Document Advantage: Document management company that uses Ajax front-ends.
- Telerik: http://www.telerik.com. Mostly focused on ASP.NET and Windows Forms, but has migrated their forms-based solutions to Ajax.
- Xucia: http://www.xucia.com. Also, www.authenteo.com. Our main product which is a Ajax development framework and CMS, and www.jspon.org is the open JSON extension we developed
- Review face-to-face resolutions
- Mostly captured at: http://www.openajax.org/blogs/?page_id=20
- Security TF: We collected a list of candidate activities, including technical initiatives (vulnerabilities, authentication, secure cross-site data access) and marketing/educational initiatives. TF needs to prioritize and then get to work.
- IDE TF: Work on WG charter right away, see if we can agree on scope and tasks.
- Communications Hub TF: Probably will want to form a separate Communications WG, but too early to start on a charter. Will look into all areas of technology stack (client, server, and messaging protocols), but some areas might be pursued outside of OpenAjax.
- Server TF: Will disband. Most of the activity will be merged into the Comm Hub TF.
- Hub 1.0: People agreed with Alex/Jon to scale back features in Hub 1.0. In: publish/subscribe event hub. Out: markup scanner, load/unload callback mechanisms, and globals management. Alex presented his 1.5K implementation of the new feature set.
- Interoperability WG priorities: Top short-term priority is finishing Hub 1.0. Next thing is Registry.
- Interoperability WG charter: Has been updated and will be discussed at Wed. Interop phone call.
- Marketing WG charter: Creation Review phone call happened on Tuesday. Low attendance. People were happy with the charter. Voting starts Wednesday this week.
- Individuals as members: No decision. Big worry is around IP issues. Jon is working on proposals.
- Mobile Ajax: Decided to launch a Mobile Ajax Task Force, whose first activities would be around documenting success stories around the techniques used today to successfully deploy Mobile Ajax applications. Rhys Lewis has volunteered to chair this task force.
- Product selector application: Jon proposed this. People said it sounded good on paper. Jon needs to produce more detailed proposals.
- New members to approve
Minutes
Topic: Approve Document Advantage, Telerik, and Xucia
(Jon explains how the 3 companies are all involved in Ajax)
Mike: Ask if anyone disagrees with unanimous approval
Jon: Does anyone disagree with unanimous approval?
(no response)
Jon: OK, we now have 76 members
Topic: Review decisions from face-to-face
Jon: I wanted to make sure that you are all aware of all of the decisions at the face-to-face and that you agree with them. Therefore, I wanted to step through the key decisions.
Security TF
- Security TF: We collected a list of candidate activities, including technical initiatives (vulnerabilities, authentication, secure cross-site data access) and marketing/educational initiatives. TF needs to prioritize and then get to work.
David: Wanted to remind everyone that there is an IEEE security conference in May. Please tell me if you want to attend.
IDE TF
- IDE TF: Work on WG charter right away, see if we can agree on scope and tasks.
Jon: Just had an IDE TF phone call. Agreed to meet every week to accelerate progress. Any comments?
(no comments)
Communications Hub TF
- Communications Hub TF: Probably will want to form a separate Communications WG, but too early to start on a charter. Will look into all areas of technology stack (client, server, and messaging protocols), but some areas might be pursued outside of OpenAjax.
Jon: Coach, this is your task force.
Coach: We will kick off again next week. I will write a recap for next week's meeting. I expect 3-6 months before we form a WG.
Jon: We are thinking that the client-side features are likely to be in scope of OpenAjax, but are unsure about the server-side and messaging protocols. For those two, we might collaborate and liaison with other groups.
Server TF
- Server TF: Will disband. Most of the activity will be merged into the Comm Hub TF.
Jon: Any comments or questions?
(none)
Hub 1.0
- Hub 1.0: People agreed with Alex/Jon to scale back features in Hub 1.0. In: publish/subscribe event hub. Out: markup scanner, load/unload callback mechanisms, and globals management. Alex presented his 1.5K implementation of the new feature set.
(Alex joins)
Jon: It is great that we have such a tight implementation now.
Jon: Any comments or questions?
(none)
Interoperability WG
- Interoperability WG priorities: Top short-term priority is finishing Hub 1.0. Next thing is Registry.
Jon: I have a detailed strawman proposal for the Registry that will be discussed at next week's meeting.
Jon: Any comments or questions?
(none)
Charters for new working groups
- Interoperability WG charter: Has been updated and will be discussed at Wed. Interop phone call.
- Marketing WG charter: Creation Review phone call happened on Tuesday. Low attendance. People were happy with the charter. Voting starts Wednesday this week.
Jon: Most members have voted on the Marketing WG. So far everyone says +1. Almost all of the big companies have voted. Most likely I will be sending email next week to SC for final vote on Marketing WG.
Jon: I made various changes and cleanups to the Interoperability WG charter to reflect the changes over the past few months. We will go over the new charter at next week's Interoperability Committee phone call. If OK, then members will vote.
Individuals as members
- Individuals as members: No decision. Big worry is around IP issues. Jon is working on proposals.
Jon: I am recommending that we move on this as quickly as we can put together a good proposal. I am asking for suggestions within IBM about ideas for dealing with the tough IP issues.
MikeM: Will this have to be put up for a vote?
Jon: Can't say for sure because I don't know what the proposal will be, but most of the things I can think of would require some sort of vote by the members.
Coach: Who do we think might join if we loosened our rules?
Jon: I think Doug Crockford would join if the rules are OK with him. I have offered to try to accommodate John Resig but he hasn't responded to my last email. Others might join such as Sam Stephenson or Thomas Fuchs, but that is speculation. I don't know for sure.
Mobile Ajax
- Mobile Ajax: Decided to launch a Mobile Ajax Task Force, whose first activities would be around documenting success stories around the techniques used today to successfully deploy Mobile Ajax applications. Rhys Lewis has volunteered to chair this task force.
Jon: The Mobile Ajax discussion was on the second day. I want to make sure people were paying attention, but we decided to have a new task force. Anyone see any problems?
Coach: Have they talked about agenda and meetings?
Jon: No meetings so far.
Coach: How many companies want to participate?
Jon: I believe around 10, maybe more, have signed up on the wiki page. So, lots of interest in mobile, but I am not sure about how many of them will put time into contributions.
Jon: My idea is that the Mobile TF would start off documenting success stories. This would encourage members to document how they were successful in a manner that gets the word out about their approaches but isn't an advertisement. I am hoping this spurs people into participating.
Coach: Sounds good.
Product selector application
- Product selector application: Jon proposed this. People said it sounded good on paper. Jon needs to produce more detailed proposals.
Jon: The idea is adding some Ajax to our web site to classify Ajax toolkits along various criteria. The idea is that members would be motivated to participate so that the world would find their products using this application. Might also help to pull in new members.
Jon: People said fine, but I need to describe it in more detail.
Next meeting
Jon: Are people available April 19?
Multiple: yes
