Steering Committee Minutes 2008-08-01

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Contents

Attendees

  • Mike Pinette, Zend
  • Alex Russell, Dojo
  • David Boloker, IBM
  • Coach Wei, Nexaweb
  • Bertrand Le Roy, Microsoft

Agenda

  • Agenda
    • 2008 InteropFest
    • OpenAjax Pavilion at Mashup Camp in November
    • Next face-to-face meeting (October 23-24?)
      • Microsoft is thinking about hosting and having its own Web-oriented interoperability event around then also
    • Next election
      • ~ October 1, 2008
      • Slots to fill: Dojo, Eclipse, IBM, Zend
      • All activities would happen in September
    • Update on current activities
      • Browser wishlist initiative
      • OpenAjax Hub 1.1 and OpenAjax Metadata
      • OpenAjax Registry and OpenAjax Conformance
      • Mobile Task Force, device APIs, and OMTP
      • Dormant: Security TF

Minutes

2008 InteropFest

Jon gave a high-level overview of the proposed InteropFest, which covers Hub 1.1 and Metadata.

Jon says lots of vendor integration is already working due to work in the reference implementation and more vendor integration is likely in the coming weeks, maybe due to leveraging JSDoc Toolkit no objections to the proposed plan

Mashup Camp

Alex: When is Mashup Camp going to happen?

Jon: There is one in November 4 weeks after AJAXWorld. Another one in October before AJAXWorld, but I worry that there won't be enough vendors ready by then. So, I propose just doing the Mt View event. Also, half the cost. IBM is volunteering to fund.

Jon: MikeM says that sponsorship should be supported, but we need to have a general approach to how sponsorship should work. Here is a general outline of what I propose:

  • The main promotional focus for the event must be around OpenAjax Alliance's mission and initiatives, and therefore not primarily focused on promoting the sponsor company.
  • The event must be available to all members on a fair and even basis.
  • The event must promote all participants on a fair and even basis, with the exception that it is OK to have a special mention at a secondary level (i.e., subordinate to OpenAjax branding) about who the sponsor(s) is(are)
  • Sponsor must submit a proposal for how the event will work and receive approval on the proposal from the Steering Committee. Sponsor then must implement the event in accordance with that proposal.

MikeP/Coach/Alex: sounds reasonable

(Tentative agreement on the above outline, but Jon will send a more formal description in email for +1 voting)

Next face-to-face and Microsoft's own event

Jon proposes Oct 23, just after AJAXWorld. Alex would prefer that we choose a different conference for fairness and other reasons. Jon agrees that we shouldn't do AJAXWorld always, but this time it is the only conference at the right time and the right place. David points out the importance of saving airfare by piggybacking conferences and Coach agrees. Alex says it's OK to piggyback AJAXWorld again.

Jon: MS is thinking about hosting the meeting and having its own interop event

Bertrand: Yes, it is coming together. We are likely to be able to host in the same place as last year. We are thinking about an interop event around VStudio, IE8 and IE9 with some of the same people as OpenAjax, but people who aren't members also. Piggyback the piggyback.

Jon: We want to keep the events independent, even if they happen the same week in the same place.

Bertrand: Yes

Jon: What I propose is that we have a single-day event on Thursday Oct 23, where the main focus is the InteropFest. I expect we will get feedback from the participants about changes to the technologies that we need, and the key event will be having those discussions.

Any objections?

(no objections)

Jon: Thanks to MS in advance for volunteering to host

Elections

Jon mentions that there will be nominations and voting in September for 4 open slots on SC. Plan to have things work like previous elections. No questions or comments.

Status reports on various initiatives

Browser wishlist

Jon: All done except for 1 hour phone calls with the browser teams.

Coach: Better than expected. We were hoping for 50 people to rate the features, and ended up with 220 participants and 160 voters. Top features included 2D vector graphics,..

Jon: security, and then better APIs for visual layout, which is something that isn't high on the HTML list.

Coach: native JSON support, two connection limit, persistent connections, audio and video, ...

Jon: Coach, what's your availability in the next two week?

Coach: I'm available.

Jon: OK, I'll send emails and try to set up phone calls.

Jon: Just to be sure, my thinking is that this browser wishlist thing was a one-time event. We did it, we're done. Maybe we do something again in 1 1/2 or 2 years. Yes?

Alex/David: Agree.

Registry and Conformance

Jon: Basically done, but I haven't had bandwidth to push these towards completion. I think the Registry needs on online form because the volume will be too great. I was going to push these to completion this fall. Any comments or questions?

(none)

Mobile

Jon: We made a nice contribution to the industry with our fast-track initiative in March/April around allowing the Web Runtime to access device capabilities, with use cases, requirements, and security conceptual model. OMTP has picked up our work and is running with it.

David: Who are we coordinating with at OMTP?

Jon: I work directly with Nick Allott, who runs OMTP. Similar to me, he is involved in the technologies. That's a strong relationship. But also, overlapping membership between Vodafone, Aplix and Orange.

Jon: We are now doing open source JavaScript work on an Ajax library for device APIs that can work with legacy systems such as Windows Mobile. It's unclear where this will end up. OMTP is moving quickly. The Mobile TF members want us to continue with this "shim layer" effort.

Alex: This is good. Need to highlight this coordination better with the OpenAjax members

Security TF

Jon: Security TF has been dormant. Just wanted to make people aware and make sure that's OK. The industry seems to be taking care of security issues OK. The one issue that probably needs attention is around single-signon with mashups.

Alex: There is good progress on OAuth and OpenID, but what's missing is authorization on a per-action basis. Maybe should talk to the Open Web Foundation folks. They are big on identity things, but they need to look at the mashup use case. I can make introductions.

Jon: Let me have a conversation with Larry Koved, who chairs the Security TF, about this. He has been looking at similar things in and around this space.

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