Steering Committee Minutes 2008-10-14

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These minutes have been approved.

URL: http://www.openajax.org/member/wiki/Steering_Committee_Minutes_2008-10-14

Contents

Attendees

  • Mike Milinkovich, Eclipse Foundation
  • Kris Zyp, Dojo
  • David Boloker, IBM
  • Coach Wei, Nexaweb
  • Bertrand Le Roy, Microsoft
  • Kevin Hakman, Aptana
  • Jon Ferraiolo, IBM

Agenda

Minutes

Welcome Kevin and Kris

Jon: Kevin has been on the Steering Committee previously.

Jon: The Steering Committee manages the alliance on behalf of the members and therefore must attempt to lead the alliance towards what is best for the members and best for the industry. Just a few things required by our Members Agreement. Approval of new members. Creation of Working Groups. Approval of specs.

Steering Committee chair

Jon: One other thing is that the Members Agreement says that we need to elect a chair. IBM has chaired up until now, which has proven convenient since I usually work on the agenda for the Steering Committee meetings.

David: But need to emphasize that it is fine with IBM if someone else is chair, that Jon will still help out to the same level no matter who is chair.

Coach: I nominate David.

Kevin: Second.

Mike: (positive statements about David as chair)

RESOLUTION (by unanimous vote of meeting attendees): David will continue as chair

Face-to-face

Jon: Who won't attend? David and I will be there.

Kris: Won't attend, but I will call in.

Mike: Won't attend, but will send Bjorn Freeman-Benson to represent Eclipse.

Kevin: Most likely will attend, but there is a product launch that week.

Coach: I'll be there.

Jon: I assume Howard will be there, at least some of the time, because he is local.

Update on Nexaweb

Coach: Before going into face-to-face agenda, I wanted to notify people that Nexaweb most likely will have a change in Steering Committee representation. As most of you know, I have been out of Nexaweb operations for about 6 months. So, I am thinking of replacing myself, probably with Jeremy Chone. Most of you know him. He used to be product manager for FLEX at Adobe and is now our CTO. The change might happen with the F2F meeting. Jon: From a procedural perspective, there is not much to do. Jeremy can simply attend the phone calls. It is companies that are elected to the Steering Committee. OK to change the people.

Jon/David: (various thanks and acknowlegements of Coach's many contributions to OpenAjax, including chairing two committees, participation in SC, Nexaweb contributions across many initiatives, blogging and marketing, plus major contributions to the Ajax industry itself)

Coach: Has been a great pleasure and privelege.

Jon: We are looking forward to Jeremy's contributions.

Face-to-face agenda

Working group charters

Jon: Working group charters expire. I will propose extending Interop and IDE, but not Marketing. Low attendance there. Just have SC address marketing issues.

David: Yes

Mike: Yes, people speak with their feet. Just need to make sure we follow the rules for closing down a WG. Probably need a vote from SC. I think it's important to formally shut down things when they are done.

Jon: I need to check the rules.

Kevin: Is there a need for a re-invigorated marketing activity?

David: Question is whether we need a global committee or just marketing tasks within each separate committee.

Mike: Then each WG needs to propose a marketing plan. At Eclipse, we have found that most marketing is done by specific groups.

Kevin/Jon: Makes sense.

Jon: We can restart the Marketing WG if we find we need it and there is expectation of participation.

Kevin: Probably need to amend charters to talk about marketing requirement.

Jon: Yes. We need to update the charters anyway just to change the expiration date.

Mobile Ajax

Jon: I've been talking with industry leaders, particularly Vodafone, about an initiative to promote Mobile Ajax interoperability via something like a Mobile Ajax Ready brand and associated tests. The goal is write-once, run-anywhere for Mobile Ajax developers. Initial discussions have received positive responses. There will be a half-day kick-off meeting on Nov 5 to see what people want to do and decide whether OpenAjax plays a role.

Mike: Won't you need funding for the certification effort?

Jon: I am thinking of an approach like the Acid tests from the Web Standards project where we post some tests that do shallow testing of features and do not attempt to be comprehensive, and where vendors can make claims and the industry does the policing. No need for certification authorities.

David: Like the conformance claims that we did for Hub 1.0

Mike: I don't know. Seems like a slippery slope.

Mike: Also, we have heard the write-once, run-anywhere goal before. Don't get me wrong. I like the idea, but it is a tricky thing.

Jon: Yes, I agree it is tricky. The plan needs to be looked at closely. The content guys need to drive it and the plan needs to be realistic.

Mike: If the mobile operators are involved, they might attempt to control it too much.

Jon: Yes, a possibility, but lately they seem to be loosening up.

Future activities

Kevin: It seems likely that there will be a version 2 of OAM. There is an opportunity to get into the annotations area and to work with JSDoc and ScriptDoc to pass data that better matches OAM.

Jon: Need to make sure the updated IDE charter addresses that.

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