Accessibility Minutes 2009 05 06
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Participants
- Ann Abbott (IBM)
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
- Nathan Jakubiak (ParaSoft)
- Vio Onut (IBM)
- Tony Salcedo (ParaSoft)
- Derk Stegemann (FIT)
- David Todd (IBM)
Minutes
Titling Rules
Jon: Starting with Titling rules.
Jon having trouble getting into IRC.
Jon: When web page doesn't have a title element generate a violation.
Jon: Title element must contain content.
Jon: What is valid content?
Jon: Title must contain at lease one non-space character.
Jon: Title should contain at lease one word or maybe two or three words.
Vio: what about Chinese characters?
Jon: Apply conditions depending on language?
Jon: Title of a web page should contain the web site name and where am I in the Web site.
Jon: Can never have a perfect automatic title test.
Jon: H1 heading are used to title pages.
Jon: H1 element just specifics what sub-page you are on.
Jon: A page must contain at least one H1. If more than one a warning is generated.
Vio: Has the same rule for title. If h1 is found more than once a violation is generated.
Jon: The Web developers Jon has worked with like this type of guidance.
Nathan: Maybe use of h1 should be a best practice.
Ann: is looking at 2.4.6 - descriptive headings
Jon: WCAG isn't clear on use of headings.
Tony: headings 2.4.6 addresses headings.
Tony: 2.4.6 seems to recommend use of h1 and h2 headings.
Ann: 2.4.6, 3rd bullet, headings must be in context.
Jon: Missing h1 headings are warnings. Empty titles are violations.
Jon: Can ARIA label be used instead of html heading markup.
David: In general, best practice is to use html and fall back to ARIA when html can't be used to specify role and state.
Jon: Generate a violation when a page doesn't not contain a tile element and the title does not have content.
Jon: Generate a warning h1 element is missing. Generate a warning when the h1 text is not contained in the title.
Jon: Everyone agrees that title contains Web site and sub-page information.
Jon: No further comments from the group about titling.
Jon: Moving on to titling frames.
Tony: WCAG points addresses title for frames and iframes.
Tony: H64 addresses titling frames.
Jon: Not excited about checking for titles in frames. Frame titles are a poor navigation technique.
Jon: Headers and other landmarks are much better.
Jon: is ok with developing a rule for frame titles.
Jon: must leave meeting a little earlier today.
Pick up next week with Link Rules.
Action Items
No action items for this meeting.