Accessibility Minutes 2012 02 13
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Present
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois - Co-Chair)
- Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois)
- Rich Schwerdtfeger (IBM - Co-Chair)
- Prasanna Bale (University of Illinois)
- Marc Johlic (IBM)
- Ann Abbott (IBM)
- Philip Ackermann (Fraunhofer Institute for Applied Information Technology) - Scribe
Minutes
Jon: /member/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Principle_3_Understandable_Rules#Requirement_3.3.2_Labels_or_Instructions
Jon: /member/wiki/Accessibility
Jon: /member/wiki/Accessibility#2012
Jon: Would it be sufficient to define groups of radio buttons by using ARIA roles?
Jon: CONTROL_3 violation for both transitional ruleset and ARIA strict
Jon: CONTROL_3A
Jon: CONTROL_3 is just about radio buttons
Jon: CONTROL_3A is about other form elements that are grouped
Nick: What about group of checkboxes, which are most similar to radio buttons?
Jon: What would be the indicator for a checkbox group?
Nick: A common pattern is to use same name attribute value
Nick: But programmatically hard to check
Jon: It could then be a manual check
Ann: No special separation between grouping of radio buttons and other form elements in IBM guidelines
Jon: Maybe first try to implement the rules and see if there are problems, then later come back to it
Jon: Changed to CONTROL_3A and to CONTROL_3B accordingly
Jon: CONTROL_3A is now about checkboxes
Jon: New CONTROL_3B is about other form controls
Jon: /member/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Principle_2_Operable_Rules#Requirement_2.4.6_Headings_and_Labels
Jon: Maybe put CONTROL_3B into another section
Jon: Anything related to markup patterns put to 3.3.2
Jon: CONTROL_3A, CONTROL_3B violations or recommendation?
Nick: How would you test this rules?
Nick: Shipping and billing address for example which have the same fields
Jon: Same fields but they would have different names
Nick: So you are trying to detect uniqueness, ok
Nick: Another issue: at the moment the rule is very generic
Nick: I think the rule should be more detailed on what is going to be tested
Nick: As stated now the rule is just a manual check
Jon: Ok, updated rules CONTROL_3A and CONTROL_3B accordingly
Jon: Maybe add uniqueness to rules CONTROL_3 and CONTROL_3A
Jon: Currently the shipping/billing address example passes both rules, if the user just puts one fieldset element around both
Jon: CONTROL_3A and CONTROL_3B violations or recommendations?
Jon: We will review this next week
