From steve.heron at caplin.com  Wed Oct  3 04:55:37 2007
From: steve.heron at caplin.com (Steve Heron)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:55:37 +0100
Subject: [OpenAjax] Smash demos
Message-ID: <9AEC5F50BD7E0F48891AE45ADC5611840173B5D1@ldnukms2.caplin.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to run the smash demo, but having trouble with the dojo
dependencies. I'm not familiar with dojo and not certain which
version/files I need to make the demo work. I've tried dropping in
various dojo.js versions into a lib folder, but it always complains
about not finding 'dojo.json'.

 

A second question. What exactly are the compliance requirements for an
OpenAjax compliant framework. I see the pubsub test suite, but none of
the frameworks I've looked at that seem to claim OpenAjax compliance
actually  implement all the features tested here - the filtering feature
and 'late binding' of method names to objects for example. 

thanks 

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From jferrai at us.ibm.com  Wed Oct  3 10:04:57 2007
From: jferrai at us.ibm.com (Jon Ferraiolo)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:04:57 -0700
Subject: [OpenAjax] Smash demos
In-Reply-To: <9AEC5F50BD7E0F48891AE45ADC5611840173B5D1@ldnukms2.caplin.com>
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Hi Steve,
I was successful in installing SMash by following the directions in the
readme file. I installed dojo 0.4.2 in the lib directory. I set up my local
web server such that dojo is located at htdocs/smash/lib/dojo/dojo.js as
follows:

htdocs/
   smash/
      lib/
          dojo/
             dojo.js
             release/
             src/
             tests/
            etc.

My understanding is that Dojo isn't necessary for the demos to work and is
only used for something unessential such as console logging.

I hope that helps.

Jon




                                                                           
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Hi,
I?m trying to run the smash demo, but having trouble with the dojo
dependencies. I?m not familiar with dojo and not certain which
version/files I need to make the demo work. I?ve tried dropping in various
dojo.js versions into a lib folder, but it always complains about not
finding ?dojo.json?.

A second question. What exactly are the compliance requirements for an
OpenAjax compliant framework. I see the pubsub test suite, but none of the
frameworks I?ve looked at that seem to claim OpenAjax compliance actually
implement all the features tested here ? the filtering feature and ?late
binding? of method names to objects for example.
thanks _______________________________________________
public mailing list
public at openajax.org
http://openajax.org/mailman/listinfo/public
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From jferrai at us.ibm.com  Wed Oct  3 11:24:13 2007
From: jferrai at us.ibm.com (Jon Ferraiolo)
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:24:13 -0700
Subject: [OpenAjax] Smash demos
In-Reply-To: <ef04fbb20710031047p3ca7d34bo3b358f47eed53079@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF0EDA2C1F.8B371C30-ON88257369.00643CCD-88257369.0065185C@us.ibm.com>

Hi Steve,
Sorry for not responding to your second question.

There is a distinction between an Ajax library that is OpenAjax Conformant
(i.e., satisfies the conformance requirements in the OpenAjax Hub 1.0
specification) and a conformant implementation of the OpenAjax Hub 1.0
specification.

For example, let's take Yahoo's YUI library. In order to have an OpenAjax
Conformant Ajax library, the library has to do a handful of things, such as
invoke OpenAjax.hub.registerLibrary() (if the OpenAjax Hub is present
within the JavaScript environment). It does *not* have to implement things
like filtering or wildcards because those features are implemented by the
Hub's own JavaScript (which I assume is loaded separately via a separate
SCRIPT tag).

However, let's support that Yahoo decides to develop its own implementation
of the OpenAjax Hub specification (versus relying on the reference
implementation provided by OpenAjax Alliance) and bundle their
implementation as a standard feature within the Yahoo library. In this
case, that implementation must support all of the features in the OpenAjax
Hub specification, including things like filters and wildcards.

Make sense?

Jon




                                                                           
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thanks for the reply, I grabbed dojo 0.43 and its working now. very
interesting.

I don't suppose you can answer the second question above - re OpenAjax
compliance requirements ?

thanks

Steve

On 10/3/07, Jon Ferraiolo <jferrai at us.ibm.com> wrote:
  Hi Steve,
  I was successful in installing SMash by following the directions in the
  readme file. I installed dojo 0.4.2 in the lib directory. I set up my
  local web server such that dojo is located at
  htdocs/smash/lib/dojo/dojo.js as follows:

  htdocs/
  smash/
  lib/
  dojo/
  dojo.js
  release/
  src/
  tests/
  etc.

  My understanding is that Dojo isn't necessary for the demos to work and
  is only used for something unessential such as console logging.

  I hope that helps.

  Jon


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  Hi,
  I'm trying to run the smash demo, but having trouble with the dojo
  dependencies. I'm not familiar with dojo and not certain which
  version/files I need to make the demo work. I've tried dropping in
  various dojo.js versions into a lib folder, but it always complains about
  not finding 'dojo.json'.

  A second question. What exactly are the compliance requirements for an
  OpenAjax compliant framework. I see the pubsub test suite, but none of
  the frameworks I've looked at that seem to claim OpenAjax compliance
  actually implement all the features tested here ? the filtering feature
  and 'late binding' of method names to objects for example.
  thanks _______________________________________________
  public mailing list
  public at openajax.org
  http://openajax.org/mailman/listinfo/public


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From molly at snaplogic.org  Wed Oct 10 10:29:27 2007
From: molly at snaplogic.org (Molly Morelock)
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:29:27 -0700
Subject: [OpenAjax] openAjax Logo
Message-ID: <947768D6-7DB8-456F-BDFD-E5630BFF0A89@snaplogic.org>

Hi OpenAjax Folks:

We are members of the Open Ajax Alliance and would like to add your  
logo to our partners' page. Could you please send me a logo in jpg  
format, plus a brief description?

Thanks,

Molly Morelock
SnapLogic
Open Source Internet Data Services
www.snaplogic. org
tel: 650.655.7200 ext.1010	
NEW mobile: 510.381.4811


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From jferrai at us.ibm.com  Thu Oct 11 04:27:54 2007
From: jferrai at us.ibm.com (Jon Ferraiolo)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:27:54 -0700
Subject: [OpenAjax] openAjax Logo
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Hi Molly,
The logos are at:

* http://www.openajax.org/logos/OpenAjax_Alliance_Logos.zip
* http://www.openajax.org/logos/OpenAjax_Alliance_Member_Logos.zip

The ZIP files contain the original Photoshop files plus high-resolution PDF
and EPS versions. To create a JPG, you'll need to load one of the
high-resolution versions into an image editor, downsample, and then save as
JPG. If you want me to do this for you, send me an email offline that
indicates the size (width and height in pixels) that you need.

The guidelines for using the logos are at:

* http://www.openajax.org/legal/logosandtrademarks.html

Jon Ferraiolo




                                                                           
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Hi OpenAjax Folks:

We are members of the Open Ajax Alliance and would like to add your logo to
our partners' page. Could you please send me a logo in jpg format, plus a
brief description?

Thanks,

Molly Morelock
SnapLogic
Open Source Internet Data Services
www.snaplogic. org
tel: 650.655.7200 ext.1010
NEW mobile: 510.381.4811

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From jferrai at us.ibm.com  Mon Nov 12 09:14:32 2007
From: jferrai at us.ibm.com (Jon Ferraiolo)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:14:32 -0800
Subject: [OpenAjax] publishing and subscribing in object initialisation
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Hi Peter,
OpenAjax Alliance has multiple mailing lists
(http://openajax.org/mailman/listinfo), generally one for each of our
committees. One of our lists, public at openajax.org, is read-write to
non-members, but moderated in order to manage spam. I have copied this
response to that email list. The other lists have been to be read-only to
the public and read-write to the committee members, primarily to manage
intellectual property contributions in order to protect the royalty-free
nature of our activities.

For a short period back in 2006, we used email lists at yahoogroups such as
openajax at yahoogroups.com, but that was before we had established our own
maillist software.

Regarding your code, I'm not going to say whether what you are doing is
good, bad, positive, negative, or whatever, except to provide some general
guidelines that may or not apply to you:

1) We envision that OpenAjax.hub.registerLibrary() usually will be used by
Ajax/JavaScript libraries that are posted on shared sites to be used by
multiple applications. Most of the time, logic that is specific to one
particular application will not invoke OpenAjax.hub.registerLibrary() on
the application-specific JavaScript within that particular application.

2) I don't believe that we have written up any official Best Practices on
this topic yet, but in general it is recommended that both Ajax toolkit
developers and application developers minimize the number of global
JavaScript objects that they create in order to minimize the chance of
unexpected JavaScript naming collisions. Therefore, OpenAjax Alliance is
strongly encouraging the Ajax toolkit developers to attach all of the
JavaScript logic contained within a single toolkit to a small number of
JavaScript globals, ideally at most one. For example, Google Web Toolkit
puts all of its globals off of the global object [window.]gwt. Application
developers (i..e, the developers who tend to use Ajax toolkits) should
consider a similar approach and create a small number of global objects
onto which they attach their variables and functions. For example, if you
have a weather viewing application, perhaps you create a global variable
named [window.]wview and then put all of our global variables and functions
onto "wview". This helps to minimize JavaScript naming collisions and will
make it easier to adapt the application should future browsers or
JavaScript toolkits add new features that collide with any of your object
names.

3) eval() is always dangerous, as is the use of innerHTML, because they can
allow for cross-site scripting attacks (XSS) when the data comes from a
source that might be untrustworthy. Instead of using eval() on arbitrary
JavaScript, use the subset of JavaScript known as JSON and use a JSON
parser to convert it into a JavaScript object. Only if the performance of
JSON parsing is too slow for your needs and if you are absolutely certain
that the source of the data is trustworthy, then maybe you consider the use
of eval().

Jon




                                                                           
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 Hi All,                                                                                           
                                                                                                   
 I couldn't find a forum at openajax.org so I hope you don't mind me post my code here...          
                                                                                                   
 I'm hoping to use OpenAjax as a general purpose client-side event hub in a new project and        
 thought i'd play around with a way to keep most of my publish and subscribe calls in one place.   
 Can anyone see any problems with doing as outlined in the below example?                          
                                                                                                   
 Also (a general javascript question), is it OK to use the eval statement in an object's member    
 value as i've done here? Seems to work in Firefox, but is broken in IE7??                         
                                                                                                   
 Cheers                                                                                            
 Pete                                                                                              
                                                                                                   
 example.js... .                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
 MESSAGE_ACTIVE_FLAG = true;                                                                       
                                                                                                   
 function getMessageActiveFlag(){                                                                  
     return MESSAGE_ACTIVE_FLAG;                                                                   
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 var Test = new function(){                                                                        
     this.welcome = "hi there";                                                                    
     this.person = "bobbie bob bobard from bobland";                                               
     this.doIt = function(){ return true; }                                                        
 };                                                                                                
                                                                                                   
 /* Utils */                                                                                       
                                                                                                   
 function getArg(arguments,pos){                                                                   
     return arguments[0][pos];                                                                     
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 /* Library Functions */                                                                           
                                                                                                   
 var _MYLIB_login_render = function() {                                                            
     return getArg(arguments,0)+getArg(arguments,1);                                               
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 var _MYLIB_login_post = function(){                                                               
     alert("post called");                                                                         
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 var _MYLIB_login_callback = function(){                                                           
     alert("callback called");                                                                     
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 /* Subscriber Functions */                                                                        
                                                                                                   
 function doMessage(eventName, publisherData, subscriberData){                                     
     alert(publisherData);                                                                         
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 function anotherTest(eventName, publisherData, subscriberData){                                   
     alert(eventName + " says, '"+subscriberData.welcome+"' to "+this.person);                     
 }                                                                                                 
                                                                                                   
 /* Library Definition */                                                                          
                                                                                                   
 var MYLIB = {                                                                                     
                 ns:"http://example.org/ns",                                                       
                 version:"0.0",                                                                    
                 name:"My Ajax Library",                                                           
                 components:                                                                       
                 {                                                                                 
                     login:                                                                        
                     {                                                                             
                         render: eval("function(){                                                 
 OpenAjax.hub.publish('MYLIB.components.login.render ',_MYLIB_login_render(arguments))}"),         
                         post: _MYLIB_login_post,                                                  
                         callback: _MYLIB_login_callback                                           
                     }                                                                             
                 },                                                                                
                 subscribers:[                                                                     
                                                                                                   
 OpenAjax.hub.subscribe("MYLIB.components.login.render",doMessage,null,null,getMessageActiveFlag), 
                     OpenAjax.hub.subscribe("MYLIB.components.login.render",anotherTest,Test,Test, 
 Test.doIt)                                                                                        
                     ]                                                                             
             };                                                                                    
                                                                                                   
 OpenAjax.hub.registerLibrary(MYLIB.name, MYLIB.ns, MYLIB.version,{});                             
                                                                                                   
 /* Application Code */                                                                            
                                                                                                   
 MYLIB.components.login.render("render"," this!");                                                 
 MESSAGE_ACTIVE_FLAG = false;                                                                      
 MYLIB.components.login.render("render"," this again!");                                           
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                   
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