Better IFrames Better Sandboxing
Better IFrames Better Sandboxing
However, IFRAMEs lack important flexibility and represent a heavyweight answer to features that could benefit from a lightweight solution. Depending on the use case, sometimes IFRAMEs are too restrictive, and in other cases they are too loose.
- In some cases, it would be nice if the content for the IFRAME could be inline instead of referenced
- Sometimes the developer would like events to bubble up from the IFRAME into the main document in the same manner as would happen if the content had been placed inline inside of a DIV
- Sometimes the developer would like CSS stylesheets to bubble down from the main document into the IFRAME in the same manner as would happen if the content had been placed inline inside of a DIV
- Sometimes the developer would like the IFRAME to auto-size (like a DIV) based on the size of the content within the IFRAME
- In some mashup scenarios, 3rd party content is delivered via a proxy server that is in the same domain as the main web page. In this case, the browser does not sandbox the IFRAME. It would be advantageous if the browser had an option to sandbox an IFRAME even if it came from the same domain.
- Also, would be nice to prevent selected IFRAMEs from moving or resizing, or blocking communicating with other iframes even if from the same domain
Too slow and heavyweight:
- IFRAMEs are implemented in a heavyweight manner, which is understandable since the model is that it represents a whole new web page, but for secure mashup scalability, it would be great if there were mechanisms to allow for lighterweight sandboxing
Why Is This Important?
Adding a "hash" attribute to all elements that has "href" or "src" attribute
This came up during the OpenAjax F2F discussion at NYC on March 27th 2008. It looks like a very sensible approach to enhance security in general (such as cross site scripting, iframe sandbox) as well as web performance (by enabling more effective caching).
Ajaxian.com reported this proposal here - Not sure whether Douglas Crockford has some writeup on this or not. Citing from Ajaxian.com report from Douglas:
Any HTML tag that accepts a src= or href= attribute should also be allowed to take a hash= attribute. The value of a hash attribute would be the base 32 encoding of the SHA of the object that would be retrieved. This does a couple of useful things.
First, it gives us confidence that the file that we receive is the one that we asked for, that it was not replaced or tampered with in transit.
Second, browsers can cache by hash code. If the cache contains a file that matches the requested hash=, then there is no need to go to the network regardless of the url. This would improve the performance of Ajax libraries because you would only have to download the library once for all of the sites you visit, even if every site links to its own copy.
'sandbox' attribute on IFRAME and DIV
One part of the solution could be a 'sandbox' attribute on an IFRAME and DIV, with values auto, true and false. auto would result in today's browser behavior. true would force the IFRAME or DIV into a sandbox (even if the IFRAME were from the same domain as the parent web page). false would allow an IFRAME to bridge into the parent web page even if the IFRAME were from a different domain/subdomain.
(Note: DIV would need an attribute to identify its domain for when sandbox=true)
Doug has also proposed a safe subset of ECMAScript (someone, please insert a link).
Add Capabilities to iframes
This is based on some ideas from Dimitri Glazkov around cross-domain workers in Gears. What if when you create an iframe you could say what Capabilities it has? Capabilities is an idea from the security field where instead of saying all or nothing you can give something access to particular capabilities, with everything off by default. Some of these capabilities could be full DOM access, limited DOM access (just to say particular IDs or classes), script access, XHR access, etc. Not sure of what the syntax might look like, but perhaps something like the following:
<iframe capabilities="limited-DOM DOM-read-only X-XHR" access-to=".hcard">
This would create an iframe that has limited DOM access but which can run cross-domain XHR. The 'access-to' element says that the iframe can only access elements that have the class '.hcard', possibly useful for an iframe to glean all of the microformat data on the page that are hcards. The DOM-read-only says that the iframe can only read the DOM, not modify it.
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Brad Neuberg's Comments
I'm surprised there aren't more comments here yet. I've been seeing what Google Gadgets has been doing with iframes to act as a containment mechanism and I've been impressed (disclosure: I work for Google). iframes have the potential to be a good containment mechanism. With a little iteration they could also be a light-weight component mechanism, which is essentially how others have been using them.
To get to this, we need more of a capabilities based model with them (I propose something like this above), plus solve some of the pragmatic issues they have around sizing. Getting an iframe's height to size to the surrounding content can be a challenge on some browsers. Also, it would be nice if a document can create an iframe and do a document.open into it, but actually specify the MIME type of what you are writing in so you can write XML into an iframe (document.open support setting the MIME type, see here http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/DOM:document.open , but not all browsers support it).
Mike Wilson's Comments
Recently there has been additions to the HTML5 draft related to this: http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-May/014874.html
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