Accessibility Minutes 2009 06 24
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Participants
- Nathan Jakubiak (ParaSoft)
- Rich Schwerdtfeger (IBM - chair)
- Anne Abbott (IBM)
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
- David Todd (IBM)
Minutes
RS: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/C6
JG: Navigation bar example: http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/nav/nav1.html
JG: Another example: http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/nav/nav1.html
JG: Navigation bar example: http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/nav/nav1.html
JG: Another example: http://test.cita.illinois.edu/aria/nav/nav1.html
RS: Page we are working on: http://www.openajax.org/member/wiki/Accessibility-Reorganization
JG: Section 1.2
JG: There is no standard way to check audio or video
JG: There could be a way to use aria to mark transcripts or have information about captions
RS: We had some items for audio and video pre-recorded
RS: If there is a transcription, use aria-describedby
JG: Flash is a problem, since it is hard to tell what it is, may not be a video
JG: I think all objects should have a describedby
RS: Should there be a label
JG: I think we need a convention using describedby to indicate open or closed captions
RS: The describedby content must have alabel
JG: The label could be "transcript", "Open caption", or "closed caption"
RS: If it is a caption, will it be live?
JG: I have not seen anyone implement captions as DHTML
RS: I am updating the rule
JG: We need to get these back to WCAG for their approval
RS: Yes
RS: If you have a caption should be live region
JG: I have not seen DHTML for captions
RS: Caption First creates a caption using DHTML
RS: They should use log
JG: That would be great
JG: If captions are rendered using DHTML then authors need to use log, this is often the case for live captioning over the web
JG: RS: The alternative text must aria-labeledby relationship
RS: A role=log or live=true
RS: Updating the rules
RS: Next one is "[121.PV01] a video file is present and an alternative format cannot be determined"
RS: It is hard to know what a media object is, there are soem exceptions like MP3, this affects which checkpoint applies
JG: What is a media alternative
JG: WCAG examples are mostly for SMIL, SMIL is not used much in practice
JG: People could use describedby, but that is not really an alterantive
RS: Do they have any techniques of alternative examples
RS: No examples
JG: In practice people use K3000 or textHelp
RS: I know where we had this at IBM, a transcoder for seniors
RS: There is the easy web browser, they would include audio with the text
RS: They are assistive technology, I don't know if we need a test
RS: They need some type of relationship
JG: I think the link or the label whould describe the relationship
JG: On the audio object you link to the transcript, like RS said earlier
RS: if you show the transcript relationship you are done, or a media relationship
RS: We have one test for the the audio or video must have a relationship with the markup
RS: We need to know if a transcript, open or closed caption
RS: Or a media alternative
RS: It looks like the first one is a transcript
Nathan: We flag them for manual checks, we look at file extension or MIME/TYPE
RS: Updating the text...
RS: The whole section will be one set of test, and the error is base on media
RS: I will try to move some of the stuff
JG: I will try to move forms
