Accessibility Minutes 2014 02 17
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- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
- Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois)
- Marc Johlic (IBM)
- Ann Abbott (IBM)
- Mark Novak (TPG) - scribe
Internal Business
anna - saves the raw IRC text for each call she attends
jon, no update for tools
ann, on a call recently, accessibility back to a priority, had a call with developer, the developer had found AInspector
ann, invited them to the call, maybe they will join in the future
ann, how does AInspector start up?
nick, restore button available when install, ARIA strict on install
nick, defaults to strict on install
ann, can send the link to version 15.4
nick, wiki has read only public access
nick, possibly could connect and talk for feedback
ann, the group had done alot re:accessibility in short period of time
jon, noted lack of aria landmarks techniques in general
mark- noted that 19 new techniques, in editors draft, should be published soon
mark - moving to html 5 techniques as a focus
marc - noted some of the differences in how landmarks are understood...
jon - some of the groups frustrations, more into compliance, perhaps?
jon - had submitted techniques, but all rejected, so some difference of understanding of what is a techniques
jon - developers need clear instructions...
Landmark rules discussion
jon - discuss landmark rules today
Landmark Rule 11
jongund Landmark Rule 11: main landmark must be a top-level landmark
jon - what does it mean to be a 'main' landmark
jon - landmark rules apply per frame/iframe
jon - this allows simplification of the rules that are applied to current pass
jon - have to review how headings are handled
jon - strict mode, headings now in landmark?
jon - main landmarks can only be a child of another main lanmark
jon - may need to test, as main landmark could only be in sub dom, then contained in another main landkmark
Landmark Rule 14
jongund * Landmark Rule 14: search landmark can contain only region landmarks
jon - same rule for other landmarks - which one s?
jon should form landmarks be included in landmark rule #14 ?
as in a form landmark inside of a search landmark
discussion of whether or not form landmark makes sense inside a search landmark
ann - read description of form landmark
Landmark Rule 15
jongund Landmark Rule 15: form landmark can contain only region landmarks
jon - spec cites authors should not use form landmark inside search landmark
jon - rule #15m form landmark rule
discussion - about when one would use a from landmark
'form'
jon - what can be in a main landmark ?
discussion - main landmark could contain NOT complementary, content info, banner, as these are top level rules also
jon - will look to see if we took that rule out
jon - is form landmark complete?
nick - referred to blog article about form element?
ann - form landmark may be best included a form element (element with role = 'form')
discussion - what should or should not exist within form landmark
discussion - not a good idea to require a form landmark, but maybe can check the correct use of form landmark if it is there
discussion - forms can exist with out a form landmark
discussion - no changes at this time to rule set for form landmark
Landmark Rule 16
jongund Landmark Rule 16: region landmark must have an accessible name
jon - rule #16 - ok
Landmark Rule 17
jon - rule #17, ok
Landmark Rule 1
discussion - how many main landmarks again ?
jon - landmark rule #1 - one main landmark per dom ?
nick - would carry over to other top level landmarks as well (per DOM)
jon - landmark restrictions, where it can be applied
nick: http://blog.paciellogroup.com/2013/02/using-wai-aria-landmarks-2013/
discussion - per the blog link--AnnAbbott 23:22, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
