Accessibility Minutes 2014 06 16

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Present

  • Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois) - Chair
  • Ann Abbott (IBM)
  • Marc Johlic (IBM)
  • Todd Weissenberger (University of Iowa) - Scribe
  • Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois)

Ruleset discussion

Jon: make global nested headings a permanent recommend a rule? Group agrees.

Marc: http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/minimize-error-suggestions.html

Todd: Should error handling go under 333 or 332? Required?

Marc will take it back to w3c.

Todd: ARIA18 mapped to 3.3.3 alert dialog technique may not point to specific or relevant control.

Todd: Only other r

Todd: Hard to track meaning of c

Jon: hard to determine meaning of various ARIA attribs. for error mgmt. Manual check?

Todd: 3.3.4 -- lots of things apply. Manual check.

Ann: Any 3.3.4 rule should be three-part narrative to make sure the content is reversible, can be checked, and can be confirmed. Should these be three separate rules?

Jon: 3.3.4 is more of a page level check, and 3.3.3 is more of an element level check. We need to break it up because it will be too hard to keep all of those clauses.

Ann: 3.3.3 only kicks in if errors are automatically detected and suggestions are known.

Nick: 3.3.4 focuses more on different kinds of forms and what the intention of the form is.

TOdd: 3.2.2 on input: no changes of context unless user is made aware of change in advance.

Ann: Should be manual.

Nick: depends on what the change of context does.

Jon: DO we give credit for Submit buttons?

Ann: What if it says "Go"?

Jon: Is this a page level rule? It seems like a might be an element level rule.

Nick: could be multiple forms on the page. Seems like it's between a page and element level rule.

Todd: I got cut off from the call. I'll be right back

Jon: has enough ideas to work on rules for 3.2.2

Todd: Triage: do we need a repair rule set? A subset rules, that would be the most important?

Todd: How do we make accessibility available to people who do not understand accessibility? How do we prevent them from feeling daunted by accessibility?

Todd: If you apply a triage rules set, are you done? Do you call yourself accessible? Can this be done by an automated tool?

Jon: maybe the tool isn't the solution. Our tools are more quality – assurance related.

Ann: start with violations for landmarks. Easy to do, gets rid of that class violations. What is the next most common violation?

Next call

Jon: Call cancelled for next Monday.

Next call: 6/30...

Minutes edited and posted by Ann Abbott 6/30/2014 --AnnAbbott 13:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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