Accessibility Minutes 2012 07 09
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Attending Jon Gunderson, Ann Abbott, Marc Johlic, Nick Hoyt, Prasanna Bale, Rich Schwerdtfeger
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Present
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois - Co-Chair)
- Marc Johlic (IBM)
- Ann Abbott (IBM) - Scribe
- Prasanna Bale (UIUC)
- Nick Hoyt (UIUC)
- Richard Schwerdtfeger (IBM - Co-Chair)
Minutes
Update on OAA Library & rule development
Jon: Update on OAA Library & rule development - Widget1, contrast and controls/images done. Next is header/landmark rules.
Jon: http://code.google.com/p/oaa-accessibility-cache-inspector/downloads/list
Jon: updating cache inspector to incorporate new ideas & published new version of it
Jon: asking folks to start using it to test
Jon: should work on FF13
Jon: input on features sought also
Jon: are rules doing what we think they should be doing
Jon: "more info" should be looked at also
Marc: installed and likes "rule info"
Jon: headings/landmarks next week
Heading rules discussion
Jon: Look at heading rules 1.3.1 & 2.4.6
Jon: /member/wiki/WCAG_2.0_Principle_2_Operable_Rules#Requirement_2.4.6_Headings_and_Labels
Jon: Difference between docs with landmarks & without landmarks
Jon: if main landmark exists, need different heading rules
Rich: heading nesting is region specific and NOT page specific at IBM
Jon: when to turn off page heading rules and look at landmark heading rules?
Rich: if orphaned content = failure and should force heading navigation
Rich: if no orphaned content, then heading testing confined to landmarked regions
Rich: biggest issue is orphaned content
Rich: exclude what is within landmark
Jon: as more content is within landmarks, less failures for headings
Nick: hybrid (one or several landmarks but also orphaned content) pages cause problems for screen reader users?
Rich: will likely cause issues with AT vendor
Rich: can test whole page if no landmarks on page
Rich: if only one landmark on page, then first fix all landmarks
Jon: skip links needed because not all browsers have kbd-only ability to skip
Jon: currently no rule for skip to main
Rich: rather not have one
Nick: need to convey to tool users that landmarks are more important to fix than fixing heading problems, if any
Rich: correct
Rich: mixed content of widgets and static content is really confusing when there are only headings
Jon: heard that RPT is being used by UI Admin
Ann: different RPT rule set in customer version of RPT than RPT deployed internally at IBM
Jon: will investigate
Jon: rule wiki seems confusing now that we have conceptual model
Jon: will reorg way rules are presented there
Jon: change from table layout to list layout
Jon: wants to generate wiki content from rules
Nick: sounds good
Call ended at 12:52pm Central --AnnAbbott 18:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)