Accessibility Minutes 2013 04 29
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Present
- Ann Abbott (IBM)
- Marc Johlic (IBM)
- Rich Schwerdtfeger (IBM)
- Mike Scott (Illinois Department of Human Services)
- Jon Gunderson (University of Illinois)
- Nicholas Hoyt (University of Illinois) - Scribe
Minutes
Tools Updates
JG: Any updates on AInspector Sidebar?
NH: Not currently; am working on Rule Details view and should have a new prototype soon.
AA: Could someone provide the link to the current AInspector for Firebug?
JG: Link to AInspector for Firebug: http://code.google.com/p/ainspector/downloads/list
MJ: Link to Firebug: https://getfirebug.com/
MJ: Need to scroll down on that page to download the 1.12 Alpha for Firebug
JG: Thanks to Ann for reviewing AInspector Sidebar wireframes and providing feedback.
Evaluation Library and Issue Tracker
JG: Next agenda item: Evaluation Library and issues: /member/wiki/Accessibility_Evaluation_Library_API_2.0
JG: Prasanna, Nick and I have been working on the Evaluation Library API and its documentation.
JG: Next agenda item: Issue Tracker: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?limit=25&func=&group_id=175671&atid=874168&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=&assignee=&status=&category=&artgroup=5499140&submitter=&keyword=&artifact_id=&submit=Filter
JG: Added an issue re. multiple aria-owns on the same element.
JG: Currently have a number of issues for headings and landmark rules.
Headings and Landmarks Rules
JG: Would like to discuss relationship between heading and landmark rules.
JG: Two edge cases for landmarks: (1) no landmarks, in which case headings should be properly nested and (2) landmarks are used, in which case headings should be nested within landmark (relax the rule somewhat re. the entire page)
JG: From the Open Accessibility Alliance, consensus was heading structure is separate from landmark structure.
JG: Users of ATs are using either headings or landmarks initially.
AA: And when users start with landmarks, they may then switch to using headings.
JG: I'm thinking that we need one rule for headings being properly nested across entire page and another rule for headings being properly nested within landmarks.
JG: Other group made the point that some people would not be using landmarks.
JG: ARIA transitional: two rules (1) headings properly nested across page (Required) (2) headings properly nested within landmarks (Recommended)
JG ARIA Strict: eliminates first rule above and makes the second rule a Required rule.
JG: This seems simplest from both an implementation and a documentation standpoint.
JG: Rule: All content must be within a landmark: concern about this rule generating large number of violations.
JG: Two things to discuss (1) separate into two rules, one a page level rule: "Use landmarks to structure the content" and the second that looks at what content is within landmarks.
NH: Restatement: Use ARIA landmarks to define the structure of all content on the page.
JG: Second rule would only apply when there are landmarks.
JG: If you pass the rule, the landmarks are the elements that pass, rather than the elements within the landmarks.